Panhard double sump oil filter modifications
Sunday 22 February 2004
I found these pictures in my iPhoto gallery, so I’d thought I’d update the records.
The existing Panhard oil filter mod I created works well at lowering the oil temperature, but there was a nagging doubt that all was not as good as it could be, because on a longer run the temperature would climb, but drop when the revs were dropped. It looked like an under capacity issue, and although you can add oil coolers, the Panhard race cars went to a double sump arrangement. This was an additional sump casting that attached to the existing and was held in place by longer studs.
To test this out, I would need to make a mod to my existing Panhard oil filter to accept a double sump, because just making a longer inlet would reduce the ground clearance, and possibly cause another issue. In reality, a PL17 would be OK, but I decided to look at this further, especially when Ron Tyrrell offered a double sump casting for me to work with.
Standard filter arrangement with camera shake, showing standard crankcase sump below. The later cylindrical gauze screen is shown below, with the earlier tapered type underneath this.
To reduce the ground clearance, it was decided to put the oil filter inside, which makes oil changing potential awkward, but there are a couple of options that might negate this.
This is an earlier version, which used a internal filter I had lying around.
To make this fit, I had to revise the inlet pick up pipe, and I wasn’t that happy about the one way valve in the base of the filter either.
This is the raw baseplate being checked for size. For economic reasons I didn’t want to deviate from my replacement oil filter kit too much, so I was always looking to minimise the changes needed. I managed to find a shallower filter, shown below and fitted into the double sump casting...
…and here is the complete assembly, essentially the revised set up, showing the new sump plate.
The sump plate was substantially thinner, but the oil changing was going to be messy, because there was no drain plug fitted.
However, another session on the lathe produced this, and I just needed to find a drain plug...
…which I did here, and it’s marginally higher than the previous version, but more practical and not as tall a fitting as my standard replacement filter cartridge, shown below (the blue one)
The new filter arrangement worked very well in Ron’s car, and oil temperatures were consistently lower at speed, and did not climb into the higher levels he had seen previously in motorway work. He is convinced the increase in capacity is the correct way to go, because if it was a flow rate issue, the oil temperatures would stay high. Unfortunately, double sump castings are rarely available, but any thing you do to increase the oil capacity of these engines will be beneficial.
The existing Panhard oil filter mod I created works well at lowering the oil temperature, but there was a nagging doubt that all was not as good as it could be, because on a longer run the temperature would climb, but drop when the revs were dropped. It looked like an under capacity issue, and although you can add oil coolers, the Panhard race cars went to a double sump arrangement. This was an additional sump casting that attached to the existing and was held in place by longer studs.
To test this out, I would need to make a mod to my existing Panhard oil filter to accept a double sump, because just making a longer inlet would reduce the ground clearance, and possibly cause another issue. In reality, a PL17 would be OK, but I decided to look at this further, especially when Ron Tyrrell offered a double sump casting for me to work with.
Standard filter arrangement with camera shake, showing standard crankcase sump below. The later cylindrical gauze screen is shown below, with the earlier tapered type underneath this.
To reduce the ground clearance, it was decided to put the oil filter inside, which makes oil changing potential awkward, but there are a couple of options that might negate this.
This is an earlier version, which used a internal filter I had lying around.
To make this fit, I had to revise the inlet pick up pipe, and I wasn’t that happy about the one way valve in the base of the filter either.
This is the raw baseplate being checked for size. For economic reasons I didn’t want to deviate from my replacement oil filter kit too much, so I was always looking to minimise the changes needed. I managed to find a shallower filter, shown below and fitted into the double sump casting...
…and here is the complete assembly, essentially the revised set up, showing the new sump plate.
The sump plate was substantially thinner, but the oil changing was going to be messy, because there was no drain plug fitted.
However, another session on the lathe produced this, and I just needed to find a drain plug...
…which I did here, and it’s marginally higher than the previous version, but more practical and not as tall a fitting as my standard replacement filter cartridge, shown below (the blue one)
The new filter arrangement worked very well in Ron’s car, and oil temperatures were consistently lower at speed, and did not climb into the higher levels he had seen previously in motorway work. He is convinced the increase in capacity is the correct way to go, because if it was a flow rate issue, the oil temperatures would stay high. Unfortunately, double sump castings are rarely available, but any thing you do to increase the oil capacity of these engines will be beneficial.